<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post3023964607952187022..comments</id><updated>2009-02-23T13:35:41.297-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on PeerCentered: Red Pens</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.peercentered.org/feeds/3023964607952187022/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html'/><author><name>Clint Gardner</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07671508034667904543</uri><email>Clint.Gardner@slcc.edu</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>4</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post-7430095827059941914</id><published>2009-02-23T13:35:41.297-07:00</published><updated>2009-02-23T13:35:41.297-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I don't like the idea of writing on a writer's pap...</title><content type='html'>I don't like the idea of writing on a writer's paper with red pen or otherwise, but I agree that red pen gets a reputation that it doesn’t deserve. (It’s just a color, right? It is chosen because it is easy to see, not because it is soul-crushing.) Personally, I am able think more clearly when I am writing, so while listening to the writer I usually take notes on a notepad. During a consultation, I try to make sure that the writer has a pencil handy to take their own notes, and if the urge to “fix” something gets too strong for me, I put away my own pencil entirely.&lt;BR/&gt;It’s great, Lizzy, that in both of your consultations you were able to help the writers to understand what the writing center does and that both consultations went well. It can be a struggle to maintain the balance between a collaborative and a “productive” environment in a consultation. I think that taking the time to explain a little bit about what we do is a great idea.&lt;BR/&gt;So, my question is what sort of strategies do you all have for working with a writer who wants the “red pen” treatment and who isn’t understanding what the writing center does due to past experiences, cultural background, etc? I have had some consultations like this where I tried to explain what the writing center does and have been met with the same reply of, “Yeah, but I just want you to fix my paper!” So PeerCentered People, what do you suggest?&lt;BR/&gt;-Jenny</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default/7430095827059941914'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default/7430095827059941914'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html?showComment=1235421341297#c7430095827059941914' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post-3023964607952187022' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/posts/default/3023964607952187022' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post-8936322707159266943</id><published>2009-02-20T20:52:59.733-07:00</published><updated>2009-02-20T20:52:59.733-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Cindy Johanek included an interesting mini-study c...</title><content type='html'>Cindy Johanek included an interesting mini-study comparing ink color "effects" in her book Composing Research, a book worth reading for many reasons.  :)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default/8936322707159266943'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default/8936322707159266943'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html?showComment=1235188379733#c8936322707159266943' title=''/><author><name>elizabethchilbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03439744288615544149</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='13722682277343778084'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post-3023964607952187022' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/posts/default/3023964607952187022' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post-4298891387616369189</id><published>2009-02-20T19:25:29.250-07:00</published><updated>2009-02-20T19:25:29.250-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I don't understand why red pens have gotten a bad ...</title><content type='html'>I don't understand why red pens have gotten a bad rap. Such reactions revert to fear, instilling &lt;I&gt;more&lt;/I&gt; fear by their mere mention, when it fact if one doesn't make a big deal by using them, the "fear factor" disappears and using them becomes as innocuous as using any other writing implement.  One can choose to write on a paper using any color, pen, pencil - or using nothing at all. No one usage need be more right or wrong than any other type of usage. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have students request I use pens because - are you ready for this answer? - &lt;I&gt;it's got the most highly visible ink&lt;/I&gt;. And writing using a highly visibly ink - formerly red because it was the most prolifically offered buy really it could be any color, couldn't it? - whether the student uses that ink, or the tutor, draws attention back to the notes that serve as a reminder of what was discussed in the session.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I say, take back the red pen. Remember that it's just a color, and by not making it a big deal, it becomes not a big deal.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default/4298891387616369189'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default/4298891387616369189'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html?showComment=1235183129250#c4298891387616369189' title=''/><author><name>Michelle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15143978663214331262</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11586606927404146617'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post-3023964607952187022' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/posts/default/3023964607952187022' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post-8900234283118827814</id><published>2009-02-20T10:32:33.106-07:00</published><updated>2009-02-20T10:32:33.106-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Red pens?  Nooooooo!  We don't even write on paper...</title><content type='html'>Red pens?  Nooooooo!  We don't even write on papers at all, pencil or not.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default/8900234283118827814'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/3023964607952187022/comments/default/8900234283118827814'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html?showComment=1235151153106#c8900234283118827814' title=''/><author><name>Andrew</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02475394187736511449</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.peercentered.org/2009/02/red-pens.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3790062.post-3023964607952187022' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3790062/posts/default/3023964607952187022' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>